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		<description><![CDATA[And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me. This post was brought about after reading about a bill that would in essence force people to be charitable, which got me thinking about all the things that Satan has mimicked. By this is I mean [...]]]></description>
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<p>And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me. </em></p>
<p>This post was brought about after reading about a <a href="http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-1388" target="_blank" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-1388&amp;referer=');">bill</a> that would in essence force people to be charitable, which got me thinking about all the things that Satan has mimicked. By this is I mean all those things that God has given us that are direct gifts from Him. Without further todo, the list.</p>
<p><strong>Priesthood vs Priestcraft</strong></p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Priesthood</strong><em> &#8211; The priesthood is the eternal power and authority of God. Through the priesthood God created and governs the heavens and the earth. Through this power He redeems and exalts His children, bringing to pass &#8220;the immortality and eternal life of man&#8221; (<a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/moses/1/39#39" title="LDS Scriptures Internet Edition: Moses 1:39" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/scriptures.lds.org/en/moses/1/39_39?referer=');">Moses 1:39</a>). God gives priesthood authority to worthy male members of the Church so they can act in His name for the salvation of His children. Priesthood holders can be authorized to preach the gospel, administer the ordinances of salvation, and govern the kingdom of God on the earth.</em></p>
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<p><em></em><strong>Priestcraft </strong><em>- <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/2_ne/26/29#29" title="LDS Scriptures Internet Edition: 2 Nephi 26:29" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/scriptures.lds.org/en/2_ne/26/29_29?referer=');">2 Nephi 26:29</a>, we read: He commandeth that there shall be no priestcrafts, for, behold, priestcrafts are that men preach and set themselves up for a light unto the world, that they may get gain and praise of the world; but they seek not the welfare of Zion.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>It seems like a no brainer, right? On the one hand you have an <em>eternal power and authority</em>, this is what created the universe! Then on the other you have people mimicking a power and authority that wasn&#8217;t bestowed upon them, and in some cases they will even say they don&#8217;t have it nor do they need it to perform <em>miracles</em>.</p>
<p><strong>Charity vs Selfishness</strong></p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Charity</strong> &#8211; <em>Charity is the pure love of Christ. It is the love that Christ has for the children of men and that the children of men should have for one another. It is the highest, noblest, and strongest kind of love and the most joyous to the soul (see <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/1_ne/11/23#23" title="LDS Scriptures Internet Edition: 1 Nephi 11:23" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/scriptures.lds.org/en/1_ne/11/23_23?referer=');">1 Nephi 11:23</a>).</em></p>
<p><em></em><strong>Selfishness</strong> &#8211; <em>I know this is like the polar opposite here, but think about it. What are some of the root causes of today&#8217;s problems? In the Topical Guide we can read that selfishness, also goes with Covetousness, Greed, Lust, and Pride. But these are promoted as good things!</em></p></blockquote>
<p>There&#8217;s been a round of commercials on lately, I don&#8217;t recall the name of them or who&#8217;s putting them on, but they&#8217;re about couples or families. Basically the premise is they take the phrase &#8220;Mine and Yours&#8221; and convert it to &#8220;Ours&#8221;, or the word &#8220;Me&#8221; and convert it to &#8220;We&#8221;. Truth is, I know a lot of people who have gotten into a mindset that what&#8217;s theirs is theirs and that&#8217;s all their is to it. I also have a sneaking suspicion that this is one of the reasons (along with others listed up there) that marriages fail so often &#8211; people aren&#8217;t willing to be charitable in their relationships.</p>
<p><strong>Love vs Lust</strong></p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Love </strong>- <em>I know, this was mentioned above, but I think it takes a closer look. Love is a feeling of deep devotion, concern, and affection. The greatest example of God&#8217;s love for His children is found in the infinite Atonement of Jesus Christ. Love for God and fellow men is a characteristic of disciples of Jesus Christ.</em></p>
<p><em></em><strong>Lust</strong> &#8211; <em>And what does Satan come up with as a knock-off, lust. Lust can destroy families, where Love promotes families. Lust is dark, and dirty and gives into cravings, where Love is bright and give power to overcome and strengths out of our weaknesses.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>I see a trend here. But another reason for the ailments in the world can be chalked up to lust. Lusting for riches, power, reputation, people. If a person was truly a loving person there would be none of that. I&#8217;ve always maintained that if a person was truly living a Christ like life, the side-effects would be these attributes listed here. The world wouldn&#8217;t be the way it is.</p>
<p><strong>Consecration vs Socialism</strong></p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Consecration</strong> &#8211; <em>The United Order exalts the poor and humbles the rich. In the process both are sanctified. The poor, released from the bondage and humiliating limitations of poverty, are enabled as free men to rise to their full potential, both temporally and spiritually. The rich, by consecration and by imparting of their surplus for the benefit of the poor, not by constraint but willingly as an act of free will, evidence that charity for their fellowmen characterized by Mormon as &#8220;the pure love of Christ.&#8221; (<a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/moro/7/47#47" target="_blank" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/scriptures.lds.org/en/moro/7/47_47?referer=');">Moro. 7:47</a>.) [1. Marion G. Romney - <a href="http://aheavenlybanner.com/index.php?page=documents&amp;did=3" target="_blank" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/aheavenlybanner.com/index.php?page=documents_amp_did=3&amp;referer=');">Socialism &amp; The United Order</a> 1966]</em></p>
<p><strong>Socialism </strong>- <em>Socialism, wholly materialistic, is founded in the wisdom of men and not of God. Although all socialists may not be atheists, none of them in theory or practice seek the Lord to establish his righteousness.[2. ibid, </em><em>Marion G. Romney - <a href="http://aheavenlybanner.com/index.php?page=documents&amp;did=3" target="_blank" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/aheavenlybanner.com/index.php?page=documents_amp_did=3&amp;referer=');">Socialism &amp; The United Order</a> 1966]</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Of course Consecration only works when we are truly living a Christ like life (remember, you gotta have those side-effects!). Socialsm is just a fake way of <em>trying</em> to make it happen, except it really is nothing like it. Being forced into giving up my extra is nothing like loving my fellow man and giving him of my extra. Compassion does not equal compulsion.</p>
<p>I know there&#8217;s more of these out there, I&#8217;m always thinking to myself &#8220;look another imitation&#8221; but wouldn&#8217;t you know it, my mind has gone blank. So if you have any suggestions, let me know &#8211; and I&#8217;ll update this post with additional items.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Originally published on May 15th 2008 I don&#8217;t feel as though I completely understand the Atonement. Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I get the jist of it &#8211; but I feel like I&#8217;m missing pieces of it. I looked up the Atonement under Gospel Topics on lds.org. There is a brief description of the atonement and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Originally published on May 15th 2008</p>
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<p>I don&#8217;t feel as though I completely understand the Atonement. Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I get the jist of it &#8211; but I feel like I&#8217;m missing pieces of it.</p>
<p>I looked up the Atonement under Gospel Topics on lds.org. There is a brief description of the atonement and some additional links for other information. I chose to look at Church Magazine Articles to see if there were some talks out there that might help me understand it in a more plain fashion.</p>
<p>Reading that the Atonement is &#8220;the most difficult to understand&#8221;[1. James E. Faust -<a href="http://lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=b8088c6a47e0c010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____" target="_blank" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD_amp_locale=0_amp_sourceId=b8088c6a47e0c010VgnVCM1000004d82620a&amp;referer=');">The Atonement: Our Greatest Hope</a>], or &#8220;it is impossible for me to put into words the full meaning&#8221;[2. Elder M. Russell Ballard - <a href="http://lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=1641d9cbdb01c010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____" target="_blank" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD_amp_locale=0_amp_sourceId=1641d9cbdb01c010VgnVCM1000004d82620a&amp;referer=');">The Atonement and the Value of One Soul</a>] of the Atonement is not exactly what I needed to see. I need it easy!</p>
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<p>But I figure I&#8217;m going to have to read a lot, if I want to get to a better understanding of it. We can start with the basics of it and what it does for us.</p>
<p>The Bible Dictionary states &#8220;Atone describes the setting “at one” of those who have been estranged, and denotes the reconciliation of man to God. Sin is the cause of the estrangement, and therefore the purpose of atonement is to correct or overcome the consequences of sin.&#8221;[3. Bible Dictionary - <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/bd/a/140" target="_self" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/scriptures.lds.org/bd/a/140?referer=');">Atonement</a>]</p>
<p>If you look it up through Gospel Topics, it says this &#8220;As used in the scriptures, to atone is to suffer the penalty for sins, thereby removing the effects of sin from the repentant sinner and allowing him or her to be reconciled to God. Jesus Christ was the only one capable of carrying out the Atonement for all mankind. Because of His Atonement, all people will be resurrected, and those who obey His gospel will receive the gift of eternal life with God.&#8221;[4. Gospel Topic - <a href="http://lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=bbd508f54922d010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&amp;locale=0&amp;index=1&amp;sourceId=968539b439c98010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____" target="_self" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=bbd508f54922d010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD_amp_locale=0_amp_index=1_amp_sourceId=968539b439c98010VgnVCM1000004d82620a&amp;referer=');">Atonement of Jesus Christ</a>]</p>
<p>In essence, Jesus is our rescuer, and he stands in our place. He was the only one capable. Because He was born of a mortal mother [could die] and of an imortal Father [overcome death].  [5. Gospel Topic - Atonement of Jesus Christ; Additional Information]</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still missing something though and I think it has to do with sin and the effects there of. What I mean is, if we commit sin that removes us from God &#8211; the opposite of atone [at one]. As a mortal we can only do so much, repent and obey. To complete the process [what we can't do] Jesus atoned for us, enabling us <em>to</em> return [at one] to God. It&#8217;s our choice.</p>
<p>Gordon B. Hinckley explained it like this</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;a one room school house in the mountains of Virginia where the boys were so rough no teacher had been able to handle them. <a name="8"></a></p>
<p>“Then one day an inexperienced young teacher applied. He was told that every teacher had received an awful beating, but the teacher accepted the risk. The first day of school the teacher asked the boys to establish their own rules and the penalty for breaking the rules. The class came up with 10 rules, which were written on the blackboard. Then the teacher asked, ‘What shall we do with one who breaks the rules?’</p>
<p>“ ‘Beat him across the back ten times without his coat on,’ came the response.</p>
<p>“A day or so later, … the lunch of a big student, named Tom, was stolen. ‘The thief was located—a little hungry fellow, about ten years old.’</p>
<p>“As Little Jim came up to take his licking, he pleaded to keep his coat on. ‘Take your coat off,’ the teacher said. ‘You helped make the rules!’</p>
<p>“The boy took off the coat. He had no shirt and revealed a bony little crippled body. As the teacher hesitated with the rod, Big Tom jumped to his feet and volunteered to take the boy’s licking.</p>
<p>“ ‘Very well, there is a certain law that one can become a substitute for another. Are you all agreed?’ the teacher asked.</p>
<p>“After five strokes across Tom’s back, the rod broke. The class was sobbing. ‘Little Jim had reached up and caught Tom with both arms around his neck. “Tom, I’m sorry that I stole your lunch, but I was awful hungry. Tom, I will love you till I die for taking my licking for me! Yes, I will love you forever!” ’[6. Pres. Hinckley: Christmas a Result of Redeeming Christ,” <em>Church News,</em> 10 Dec. 1994, 4]</p></blockquote>
<p>In this parable, I would hazard a guess that in the great counsel in heaven we all agreed on the rules. God is the teacher, we are Little Jim and Jesus is Tom.  Jesus stepped in for us because as a mortal we can not bear the punishment alone.</p>
<p>I once asked a Stake President to help me understand the Atonement, and he went about it in an even simpler method taking his garbage can and putting it to the edge of his desk. Then telling me the items on his desk were our sins, wiped them into the garbage can. Back then I didn&#8217;t quite grasp that concept, I over thought it, but it makes sense. I can not forgive myself and be worthy to enter the Kingdom of Heaven &#8211; Jesus has got to help. He can take those red stains of sin and turn them white [7. Isaiah <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/isa/1/#18" target="_blank" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/scriptures.lds.org/isa/1/_18?referer=');">1:18</a>].</p>
<p>I understand now more so about why they counsel that it is hard to understand or to put into words the concept of the Atonement. There is a lot of pieces that are not known to me, suffice it to say that you keep digging deeper to learn as much as you can about it.</p>
<p>James E. Faust understood what was meant in <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/mosiah/4/6-7#6" title="LDS Scriptures Internet Edition: Mosiah 4:6&ndash;7" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/scriptures.lds.org/en/mosiah/4/6-7_6?referer=');">Mosiah 4:6&ndash;7</a> when he said &#8220;Our salvation depends on believing in and accepting the Atonement.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll end this by saying that, I am not a LDS scholar, nor do I consider myself all that smart with the LDS Gospel. I&#8217;m trying to learn as much as I can, and so there may be errors in my thoughts. I&#8217;m not trying to pass anything off as official, but making sense of what I don&#8217;t understand. If you feel there are errors here, please let me know.</p>
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